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Ted T.

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New Revelation Prophesied
« on: May 25, 2019, 02:36:33 pm »
     Jeremiah 33:3  Call to ME, and I will answer thee and show thee great and mighty[9] things which thou knowest not.
The first question regarding this verse is "who is the subject?" I believe that the subject is the "it" of the preceding verse, 33:2 Thus saith the LORD, the maker of it, the LORD who formed it, to establish it, JEHOVAH is HIS name.

From the general context, we can see that this "it" must be Jerusalem. Therefore, because HE must be speaking of Jerusalem in verse 2, I believe continuity suggests that it must also be Jerusalem that HE is addressing in verse 3, that is, Jerusalem representing GOD's people around the time of their return from their dispersion (verse 11)

Verse 4 also suggests to whom this word is addressed. 33:4 For thus saith the LORD, the GOD of Israel, concerning the houses of this city. In this verse, the houses of the city, that is, the people in them at the time of this regathering (verses 6,7) are the persons with whom this word is concerned

Therefore, if we supply them as the subject in verse 3, it becomes apparent that verse 3 is addressed to those persons that, in the latter days, will be living "in Jerusalem".
Therefore, this being the case, we can say that verse 3 is a means of grace to these people, firstly, instructing them what to do to have all these promises fulfilled; and secondly, announcing GOD's intention to give them a new revelation of great and mighty, previously unknown things.

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand

From 12:9 we can see that the disclosing or unsealing of the angel's words (12:7) will not happen until the time of the end. Therefore, we can say with assurance that this verse bears witness that there will be an unsealing, disclosing or revealing at the time of the end.
Therefore may I once again suggest that, in the end times, we will be given a new understanding, that is, a revealing of that which has been sealed previously [10]

This verse also tells us that the understanding of the new disclosures will not be possessed by everyone,[11] but that this blessing will be possessed only by the wise, that is, the purified. I also suggest that because the verse says that it is the wise who shall understand, some in-depth study might be required to understand the new disclosures, that is, that these new revelations will not be blinding visions of light, but that they will most likely appeal to our reason. Stated another way, they will be doctrinal, that discipline that requires so much discipline.

Micah 4:1-2 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the GOD of Jacob; and HE will teach us of HIS ways, and we will walk in HIS paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Well, we've been looking into the possibility of a new revelation being given in the latter days. In these verses we can see that there are going to be some rather incredible changes in the religious scene, to say the least, and in the latter part of verse 2 we are given (at least, a part of) the reason for such incredible changes, to wit: the word of the LORD shall go forth from the city of GOD

In other words, there will be at least one latter day revealer of the word of the LORD, because that's the only way that the word of the LORD can go forth from the city of David. Well, it stands to reason that if we're going to get a new revelation, we're also going to get someone who gives it.
Now, about this word of the LORD, just how do you think it might come? Do you think that somebody might get up and say: Thus saith the LORD? Well, that's certainly possible, because we've had that happen before, haven't we? Yes indeed, we know we've had that before because somebody wrote it down for us in a Book.
And the word of the LORD might come in another way too, right? Like, Paul wrote a doctrinal dissertation in a letter to the Romans, didn't he? Maybe we'll get something along those lines.
Then again, maybe GOD will give someone a vision, or a message, and I suppose, if the visionary or messenger writes it down, well, well, well! It seems that, no matter which way we look at it, we're going to probably get another written word.[12]

Zechariah 5:2-5 I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. Then he said unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it. I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by MY name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.
Well, what do we have here? A flying roll that GOD will bring forth. Do you recall getting this one before? I don't think you do. Maybe that is because it still is to come. Let's see. Flying would probably connote something of an heavenly or unearthly character. Since it is a book (sc-roll) it would probably contain some ideas of an unearthly (previously unrevealed) nature. Its measurement "just happens" to match the holy place of GOD's temple, so it would probably be a holy book. And its holy message will have a profound effect on some people, for it obviously has some bad news for the thieves (that is, sinners - Jesus died between two thieves - in this case, those who would be interested in stealing God's glory, that is, those who have "better ideas" than GOD's way for them, that is, "Christians" who do not follow HIM,[13] that is, hypocrites, that is, false swearers[14])

For these people it shall constitute a curse, that is, it will create a very profound separation between them and the holy GOD who brings it forth. And even worse than that, it shall have a lingering effect on them, for it shall enter into their house, that is their life (we are houses for the spirits we worship) and slowly destroy the strength thereof.[15]
Well, maybe PCE is it, and maybe not, but we are definitely going to get such a roll sometime.[16]-[17]
Notes for: New Revelation

9. KJV margin: hidden. Marginal translations are not thought to be quite as good as the one the translators used, that is the one used in the text but the marginal translation was thought to have enough merit to be noted in the margin.
In other words, the translators were not very sure on how to exactly translate a lot of verses (like this one) so they gave us two translations, the textual one being their favourite (or best educated guess) and the marginal coming in second.
In other words, if they were wrong on the first, they are hoping to redeem themselves with the second.
10. Now if we are going to get one, what says that we'll get only one?
11. Wouldn't you say that this might just indicate that these revelations will be given before Jesus' return?
12. Perhaps even accompanied by a somewhat inspired apology, eh?
13. Kiel(#2) comments: “The roll therefore symbolised the curse which will fall upon sinners throughout the whole land, consuming them with their houses, and thus sweeping them out of the nation of GOD.” (In other words, Armageddon.)
14. That the thief and the false swearer are the same person is shown by “and it shall remain in the midst of his house.” If they were two, that is, different persons, wouldn't it have to be “their houses”?
15. Since it takes awhile, this has to be taking place at least awhile before the judgement.
16. Kiel(#3) comments: “The vision certainly refers to the remote future of the kingdom of GOD.”

17.  Bet you didn't know that “flying” is literally: covered (either with wings or feathers, or obscurity). In other words, it might not be a flying roll at all. It might be an obscure (previously hidden) roll.

Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil

Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

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Re: New Revelation Prophesied
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2020, 06:12:15 pm »

John 16:25 These things have I (Jesus) spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
 Which time coming was Jesus referring to? Was He speaking of a time more in the future (say like this time)? Well, if it was a time more in the future, then He would be referring to a future doctrinal revelation, would He not?

I guess that one way to tell the time of its fulfilment is to ask ourselves whether we (that is, our educated commentators) yet plainly know of the Father, or whether we do not have it so plainly yet?   In other words, do we understand the Bible plainly, or does it yet speak to us in proverbs?

Revelation 10:8 Then the voice that I had heard from heaven spoke to me once more: "Go, take the scroll that lies open in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land." 9 So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, "Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey." 10 I took the little scroll from the angel's hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour.  Very interesting, no? As a sign of the last days, a "scroll" or KJV "little book" a diminutive form of the Greek  biblos or in English,  bible.

Since 'book' or 'scroll' denotes writing to me, I suggest that eating is a metaphor for reading the scroll and is used so we can get the analogy of sweetness and bitterness/ sour taste into the metaphor.

To continue with the thought would take us to: I read the words on the little book and at first I thought they were very wonderful and gratifying (sweet) but later as I dwelt upon their meaning, I found them hard to digest, (sour in my stomach), that is hard to accept in their full meaning. This leads me to consider that in the last days a new revelation will be learned that at first seems great but then makes us scared or dismayed as we learn its implications.

In the context of the next verse: Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.   This person who read and studied until he understood the words in the little book must go out and be a prophet from the Lord, probably teaching us the words / ideas / revelation of the little book.

Since we all know the warnings of Rev 22:18: For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:  I'd also suggest that this new revelation is probably more correctly called a new understanding of a previous revelation similar to the way we got a new understanding about the Messiah from Jesus and the Apostles.

So I guess we had all better be open to a theological explanation of God's reality about the Church and/or the world, one that is different from all previous explanations we have been taught. It is funny that people say "this new interpretation is not in the scriptures" when they really mean "I was never taught an understanding of the scriptures in this way." How could it be if the scroll had not been proclaimed yet during the last 2000 years?

Might not such an occurrence put the Churches in the position of the Pharisees, stuck on their old understandings of the theology of the scriptures and rejecting the new understanding written in the little book? Being faithful to your church does not necessarily make you faithful to GOD.

« Last Edit: January 05, 2020, 07:56:14 pm by Ted T. »
Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil

Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


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