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Author Topic: Misfits the Second:  (Read 5988 times)

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Re: Misfits the Second:
« on: September 20, 2019, 06:15:26 pm »
Rejecting the obvious difference between foreknowing and to know about just so you can reject the implications of PCE would seem to be cutting off your nose to spite your face...a leap too far.

ok, Ted,,,you seem to think that GOD had intimate knowledge of only those that HE elected and NO knowledge about those that were not elected...
Your continued misrepresentation of my beliefs when I've corrected you so many times is edging into defamation.

I contend HE has total and perfect knowledge about the non-elect! I contend that HE does NOT have and never did have a loving relationship with them! Intimate does not mean full or complete so a lack of intimacy does NOT demand a lack of full knowledge of someone. Emotional intimacy involves feelings of liking or loving one or more people NOT a full and complete knowledge which can be had without intimacy!!! Of course HE had a full and complete knowledge of the non-elect - HE JUST DOES NOT LOVE THEM!

NOW who is rejecting information I have given you (i.e. Jacob and Esau)....
One was elected and one was not. Yet, GOD knew all about Esau and what His life would be... Why do you think God hated Him.
  You waste our time supposedly trying to teach me what I have told you is my position since this started!  Of course HE knew Jacob; he was elect! And GOD's prior knowing of HIM is called foreknowledge because it includes that GOD had a fondness and intimacy with him.

Of course HE knew Esau ! but HIS prior full knowledge of Esau is NOT called foreknowledge because there was no fondness nor intimacy between them, only hate as Esau was non-elect for rejecting HIM.


The Bible does not say that so how can you know how GOD thinks. You seemed to know that the elect were with his love and the non-elect were without his love.

Here, is what we know from the Bible:

In the far reaches of time Before, God made a decision; A decision to predestinate something.  We now know that something was man.

How Jesus determined who to predestinate and who NOT to predestinate is unknown by all except HIM.

We do not KNOW!, We do not KNOW! the HOW and WHYs. We just know there are those that are elected (predestined) and there are those that are now.

Those who are Elected (predestined) received His Mercy.

Those who are NOT Elected (predestined) receive Justice!


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