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Re: Misfits the Second:
« on: September 18, 2019, 12:41:15 pm »
Sooooo, he does not know everybody? WHo made you...your cells...
Blade

Ok, so you are not ready to express your own understanding of how He must know everyone yet He claims He does NOT know everyone... I assume we are in agreement that He is not a liar so I suggest that He must be using a metaphor somewhere in this topic of knowing.

KNOWING in Genesis 4:1 ESV  Now Adam KNEW Eve his wife, [NLT Now Adam had sexual relations with his wife...]   is obviously a metaphor, introducing the idea of intimate relations, the idea of a loving relationship, into the meaning of the word, to know. In Genesis 3:22  And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, KNOWING good and evil. which uses the same word,  3045. yada: to know, the word is used to describe what is known without any hint of a loving intimate relationship...two uses for one word.


It is the difference of knowing as intimate loving a approval and a mere knowing about that is highlighted in my topic.

I suggest that when GOD is speaking of HIS foreknowledge of us HE is referring to an intimate and loving approval of us but when He claims to not know someone, He is claiming that there has never been an  intimate loving relationship between them, ie, He only knows about them with no love for them.

So whether HE created me, my spirit, and my body (which is not me)  is not the issue; it is whether we have a loving and intimate relationship with HIM.


I contend that this relationship started BEFORE we are born on earth because of some verses and things Peter told us...

Return means to go back to where you once were 
1 Peter 2:25  For ye were as sheep going astray: but are now RETURNED unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.  Well, to return, one must have been there before, at least, according to the normal use of the word. Therefore, in this verse, it would be normal to infer that the sheep that had gone astray, were, at one time part of the Shepherd's flock but had strayed away from HIS care. Since I am sure that the Shepherd was not negligent, the straying away from HIS care must involve some rebellion. Therefore, it is normally obvious that Peter is writing to some apostatized (gone astray) Christians (people of the flock). It is also normally apparent that what he was writing is intended for every new convert in every age since we went astray.

Therefore, it seems normal that the Holy Spirit would have us believe that all of the Church has personally apostatized from Christ, from their intimate relationship with Him, prior to their conversion back to Him in this life. Since we are conceived as sinners, it is easy to see that we must have apostatized from Christ before our conception and that is why we are sinners at our birth.

I think that Peter bore added witness to this fact in 1 Peter 1:3  Blessed be the GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ ...which ...hath begotten us again unto a lively hope...  Just when was the first time you were begotten by GOD? And when did you get unbegotten? Well, unless you are one of those earthly backslidden types, the only time such an un-begetting or rebellion could have taken place is prior to your conception since by that time you were already on the outs with Him. And since Peter is writing to the whole Church rather than to just the backslidden types, he must be referring to a pre-conception rebellion and the straying of HIS elect since the time of their election, which straying or rebellion ends only upon conversion to obedience unto holiness to that Shepherd, that is, upon being born in Christ (begotten) again on earth.
Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

 

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