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Quote from: Bladerunner on September 21, 2019, 08:12:43 pm

Quote from: Ted T. on September 21, 2019, 12:12:54 pm

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How Jesus determined who to predestinate and who NOT to predestinate is unknown by all except HIM.

We do not KNOW!, We do not KNOW! the HOW and WHYs. We just know there are those that are elected (predestined) and there are those that are now.

Yes WE DO KNOW! HE has led some to an understanding of whom HE chose and why... Insulting me will not make that go away.

An understanding.....How do one understand GOD. Rem, He has already told us we cannot understand HIM...To do that I guess you must have something special going on with HIM.
Blade

So, does the fulfillment of Hebrews 8:11 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. come all at once as a world ranging miracle or in one small place and slowly growing into a realization of the truth by ALL?

Anyway, I guess we can know GOD after all...


1 John 2:27 And as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all things, so remain in Him as you have been taught.
 
Philippians 3:15 All of us who are mature should embrace this point of view. And if you think differently about some issue, God will reveal this to you as well.

Nope, pretty ordinary...

Quote from: Bladerunner on September 21, 2019, 08:12:43 pm

An understanding.....How do one understand GOD. Rem, He has already told us we cannot understand HIM...To do that I guess you must have something special going on with HIM.
Blade

Rom 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

The truth about GOD is suppressed by wickedness, not unknown. The truth about HIM is plain to everyone because HE makes it plain to everyone.  20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen...

I don't know where you think it says we cannot know HIM because it might be a wrong interpretation.

Quote from: Bladerunner on September 30, 2019, 07:23:55 pm

we know him through His creation and HIS WORD>...Yet, We cannot know how He thinks. Therefore we cannot speak for HIM out side or the WORDS He has told to us in the BIBLE Blade

GOD speaks to us thru HIS written word by the voice of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirits also gives us counsel during our days and tells us what HE thinks.

Eating is an oft used Biblical metaphor for a deep comunion exemplified by Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and dine with him, and he with Me.  Is this a true verse or is it not?

John 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice,

Romans 10:17  So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ. Is hearing actually seeing or is it hearing a voice or is it telepathy from GOD??

Jeremiah 33:3 Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known. Who dares be the recipient of these great and hidden things in today's climate of distrust and animosity to new revelations re-interpreting old doctrine??

Ths verse says it can happen and who am I to say it never has happened??

Quote from: Bladerunner on October 03, 2019, 11:32:36 pm

You said:"Who dares be the recipient of these great and hidden things in today's climate of distrust and animosity to new revelations re-interpreting old doctrine??"

Are these your words, they are certainly not GOD's.
Blade

Of course they are my words but they refer to the new revelation that may be soon upon us that people may not discuss because of the prevailing attitude against such things happening.

Rev 10:8 Then the voice that I had heard from heaven spoke to me again, saying, “Go, take the small scroll that lies open in the hand of the angel standing on the sea and on the land.” 9 And I went to the angel and said, “Give me the small scroll.” “Take it and eat it,” he said. “It will make your stomach bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey.”
10 So I took the small scroll from the angel’s hand and ate it; and it was sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned bitter. 11 And they told me, “You must prophesy again about many peoples and nations and tongues and kings.”

It does not matter if this scroll (literally a little bible), contains a new revelation or a new interpretation of old revelations that have been misinterpreted over the centuries....it probably reflects the fulfillment of Dan 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end.       

and references Zechariah 5:2-4 :
1  I looked again—and there before me was a flying scroll!
2  He asked me, “What do you see?” I answered, “I see a flying scroll, thirty feet long and fifteen feet wide.”
3  And he said to me, “This is the curse that is going out over the whole land; for according to what it says on one side, every thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished.
4  The Lord Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of him who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in his house and destroy it, both its timbers and its stones.’”

Since it is a HOLY book (scroll) it would probably contain some ideas of an unearthly (previously unrevealed) nature. Its measurement "just happens" to match the holy place of GOD's temple, so it would probably be a holy book. And its holy message will have a profound effect on some people, for it obviously has some bad news:

Kiel(#2) comments: “The roll therefore symbolised the curse which will fall upon sinners throughout the whole land, consuming them with their houses, and thus sweeping them out of the nation of GOD.” (In other words, Armageddon.)

A Curse by the message of a scroll (book) upon those who swears falsely by my name ie, they must have a modicum of the Christian life about them; don't think we've seen that yet...so maybe it too is in our not so distant future. It could be that John's sour stomach came from knowing many false Christians would be cursed, though the message was holy. But it is probably NOT a cursable offence to not believe there are revelations to come.